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Cheesehead Rebellion: Update 07/25 -- How Gov. Walker and the GOP are rigging the vote in 4 steps

Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:12 PM EDT
politics, republicans, gop, democrats, wisconsin, unions, scott-walker, budget-cuts, collective-bargaining, union-busting, voting-rights, koch, redistricting, voter-id, dmv, public-transit, campaign-financing, gerrymander
By American Idle

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Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker and the Republican majority in the state legislature have embarked on a radical agenda to permanently rig the vote in their favor. Here’s how they’re doing it:

1. BUST UNIONS   

Despite massive protests, court challenges, and public opinion, Walker rammed through his bill to gut collective bargaining rights for state, county, municipal, and school district workers. The bill also cut off dues payments to unions now transferred through paycheck deductions known as dues check off and made workers’ payments to their union voluntary. With hefty pay cuts going into effect for most workers, unions are having a hard time getting workers to contribute. 

Not yet on the books but in the works is a new state law that would affect private sector unions’ ability to collect dues money—and survive. The measure would make dues payments voluntary, even though unions have full responsibility for representation of members and administration of collective bargaining agreements. 

By busting unions, the GOP eliminates the Democratic Party’s strongest, most reliable source of both financial support and “boots on the ground” for get-out-the-vote and other political activities.

2. MAKE IT TOUGHER TO VOTE

Walker’s Wisconsin now has a voter ID requirement it never had before and never needed. Over 400,000 predominately Democratic voters may be affected.  The requirement weighs most heavily on minority populations, students, seniors, and the poor. It was rushed through on a partisan vote.

The law will be fully effective in January 2012; however, beginning with the current state senate recall elections, any voter unable to produce a photo ID is warned and given information about how to get one at the Department of Motor Vehicles.  

Voters applying for ID have encountered long lines, increased delays, and confusion, which will get worse if plans go forward to close 16 DMV offices throughout the state. The closures allegedly target offices in Democratic districts, while those in Republican districts are extending their hours.  The massive new state budget includes big cuts for public transportation, so getting to the offices that remain will be all the more difficult. 

3. GERRYMANDER

As this is written a new redistricting plan is sitting on Walker’s desk waiting to be signed. It was hatched in GOP offices by GOP lawyers and rushed through in an “extraordinary session” of the legislature…with no Democratic votes and no input from communities that have yet to finalize their precincts.

The plan carves up the state into even more partisan districts, the majority of them Republican. It is so gerrymandered that it pushes some wards comprised largely of racial minorities into mostly white, Republican precincts.  Some Democrats competing for state senate seats in next month’s recall elections have been conveniently cut out of their own districts, meaning that even if they win their challenge to incumbent Republicans in the upcoming August 9 recall elections, they may be ineligible to run in 2012 when the regular terms of those offices are up.

4. ELIMINATE PUBLIC FUNDING FOR CAMPAIGNS

The Walker/GOP budget that just got passed reversed 33 years of public campaign financing. Now our elections will be held hostage to wealthy contributors like the Koch brothers, making pols accountable to them, not the people. Democrats opposed the measure. Republicans voted for it.

More than $900,000 in the Wisconsin Election Campaign Fund may be used to pay for implementing the new voter ID law.

With this track record, it’s unlikely that the Walker/GOP cabal will stop here—unless we stop them. Watch for recall election results on August 9. 

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American Idle

Gee, think they'll run their next campaign on these "accomplishments"?

Nah.

There's a school of thought here that Walker et al are in SUCH deep sh!t with voters that, expecting the worst at upcoming recall elections and in 2012, they are grabbing everything they can while they can still get it. Of course, the more crap they pull, the harsher voters judge them. Self-fulfilling prophecy?

Badger Poll: 59 percent of Wisconsin residents disapprove of Gov. Walker performance

Spoke with an insider recently. After Walker was elected, there reportedly was a screaming match between him and other state repubs about his plans to bust state unions. He was told: "You didn't run on that!" He went forward anyway, and, as we all know now, the repubs went along.

  • 28 votes
#1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:06 PM EDT
GaryColumbus

Doug LaFollette should re-exercise his power as Elections Board chief and file in the State Supreme Court against these measures from Walker. It's LaFollete's job to change election laws if need be not the governor's. Walker and Kasich of Ohio need to be recalled and shown the door then told to stay the hell out! They don't represent the people of their state or the country and their performance is completely un-patriotic. Kind of like 2.0 W Bush and Company.

  • 16 votes
#1.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:00 PM EDT
American Idle

Hi, Gary, just to clarify, Doug LaFollette is Secretary of State. The former Elections Board is now the Gov't Accountability Board, headed up by director Kevin Kennedy. Ohio doesn't have recalls (last time I read about that) though if they rebel sufficiently in 2012 they just might get that right eventually. If you go deeper into that recent poll (see comment #1), it shows that Wisconsin voters are very supportive of recall rights.

  • 15 votes
#1.2 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:13 PM EDT
GaryColumbus

From what I've heard many in Wisconsin believe Kevin Kennedy was a plant by the Koch brothers. LaFollette's been there since the early 80's from what I understand and his office has continually been under fire from Republicans to shut him down. Secretary of State is supposed to be in charge of voting regulations. But knowing Republicans and their continual war for suppression of voters rights that not surprising.

Ohio has made a petition for referendum for their ballot to recall Kasich's and Ohio State House's neoNazicon's Bill 5 to take away collective bargaining rights for state workers and teachers.

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/626864/ohio_petition_opposing_draconian_anti-worker_bill_attracts_over_one_million_signatures

231,000 signatures were needed for referendum. 1,298,301 collected. That is huge in itself. Well on our way to recall Bill 5. We Ohioans should get another recall petition to throw Kasich through the door.

  • 14 votes
#1.3 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:19 PM EDT
stormshadow

neoNazicon's

I LOVE that word.. and VERY appropriate..lol

Kudos!

  • 12 votes
#1.4 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:22 PM EDT
American Idle

GOHIO!

LaFollette was very disturbed by the underhanded way repubs rammed through that union busting bill. He testified in court about it. He is a very well respected public servatn. some are very suspicious of Kennedy, but the GAB itself has a good rep.

When Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and all the other states with these criminal GOP govs finally get rid of them, there will be dancing in the streets.

  • 14 votes
#1.5 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:27 PM EDT
CaptainObviousSays

How Gov. Walker and the GOP are rigging the vote in 5 steps

with any luck they pull it off....

c-ya in 2012

:)

  • 8 votes
#1.6 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:38 PM EDT
American Idle

It means that people will have to turn out in larger numbers. If elections were held right now, the repubs would be toast.

  • 12 votes
#1.7 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:40 PM EDT
stormshadow

I daresay with the amount of anger directed at the Repugs and TP'ers, word of mouth is NOT going to be a problem..

I kinda feel bad b/c these idiots are still CLUELESS as to what they've unleashed.

  • 11 votes
#1.8 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:39 AM EDT
Auto 101

Over 400,000 predominately Democratic voters may be affected. The requirement weighs most heavily on minority populations, students, seniors, and the poor. It was rushed through on a partisan vote.

Voters applying for ID have encountered long lines, increased delays, and confusion, which will get worse if plans go forward to close 16 DMV offices throughout the state. The closures allegedly target offices in Democratic districts, while those in Republican districts are extending their hours. The massive new state budget includes big cuts for public transportation, so getting to the offices that remain will be all the more difficult.

In Nevada It took me 6 hours to get my picture taken to get my drivers licence switched to Nevada. Is it wrong that you have laws that make you get a drivers licence to dive?

Not yet on the books but in the works is a new state law that would affect private sector unions’ ability to collect dues money—and survive. The measure would make dues payments voluntary, even though unions have full responsibility for representation of members and administration of collective bargaining agreements.

If I don't want to belong to a Union Why should I have to pay?

  • 2 votes
#1.9 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:59 AM EDT
American Idle

storm, they had no idea before, but they do now!

auto, we're not talking about driver's licenses, we're talking about people trying to vote, and the fact is many who are affected were already voting! they won't be able to now without a photo ID, and NO ONE has produced any evidence to justify this change. It is purely political. I have a comprehensive article about it here. I suggest you read it.

As for belonging to a union...in every workplace where there is a union, "membership" is optional. Workers who don't want to belong can be "agency fee payers." Some people object on religious grounds, which is their right. No one disputes that. Agency fee payers do not pay dues; they pay agency fees, which are usually the same. The union is required to represent them, and they derive all the benefits of being represented, consequently they are paying for the services they receive--just like everybody else.

Collective bargaining is expensive. It's not just negotiating with the employer when contracts are due. It is day-to-day administration and representation, and it's a lot of hard work for the officers, other reps, and staff that do it. A union is the first, last, and best protection for workers; it is solely devoted to the workers' interests. By law it has a "duty of fair representation." There is nothing comparable--not government and certainly not the employer--that provides the kind of worker protection and advocacy that unions provide.

The workers are the union. It's not some outside thing. A union is only as good as its members make it.

  • 9 votes
#1.10 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:24 AM EDT
RV in GB#1

It means that people will have to turn out in larger numbers. If elections were held right now, the repubs would be toast.

That's what I heard during the Prosser election - didn't happen.

As for your five points:

1. All PUBLIC unions are still in tact, let alone private unions. If Governor Walker was serious about busting unions, we would be a right to work state. Two words - bad argument.

2. If by "make it tougher to vote" you mean - prove you are who you say you are, then yes, it will be tougher to vote. All you have to do is show an ID - and the state is providing them. Two word - bad argument.

3. Did you see what happened to the districts in this state when the Democrats did a little map drawing? Stop, just stop. If the Democrats want to blame someone for this - they should blame themselves.

4. YOU SKIPPED THIS NUMBER (as of 7/26/2011, 10:30 AM)!

5. Does this cut out union contributions? If not, don't want to hear about it.

  • 5 votes
#1.11 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:36 AM EDT
Auto 101

they won't be able to now without a photo ID, and NO ONE has produced any evidence to justify this change. It is purely political. I have a comprehensive article about it here. I suggest you read

We need the ballet in all the languages of the world so we can support all the legal immigrates that just can not learn English. were is the prof that is prevents some one from voting?

The closures allegedly target offices in Democratic districts,

allegedly Do you know what that means?

"membership" is optional

Not in all states.

A union is only as good as its members make it.

So are you saying they are useless, uneducated, and lack real skills?

  • 1 vote
#1.12 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:05 PM EDT
Rorschach-558483

RV in GB#1

That's what I heard during the Prosser election - didn't happen.

Yeah, those Repubbies managed to find a few extra thousand votes in the trunk of a car. Well, on Kathy Nickolaus' computer. What a surprise.

Translated, the GOP says: "We're going to make sure you Democrats can't cheat on the election. Leave the cheating up to us, it's what we do best."

  • 7 votes
#1.13 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:06 PM EDT
American Idle

RV, you're not seriously using that effed up, stolen election as an example, are you? Nice try; no cigar.

1. Sure public unions will be intact...in other states where they didn't get busted like here. Walker and the GOP have RTW plans; we know this for a fact. They haven't put it forward yet in the wake of the bleepstorm they they caused with all this other stuff.

2. People were already able to "prove" who they are with other documents. There was no evidence of anything wrong with the system that would warrant the disenfranchisement of potentially 400,00 voters. More info here

3. I think you better read more about what the repubs are doing; lots of articles linked there. It is unprecedented by all accounts. No comparison.

4. That disappeared in a rewrite. I included the info into another section and forgot to renumber. I'll correct. Thanks!

5. You're not seriously comparing unions to folks like the billionaire Koch brothers and corporations like Exxon, are you? Really? Uh, ok.

  • 4 votes
#1.14 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:15 PM EDT
RV in GB#1

Yeah, those Repubbies managed to find a few extra thousand votes in the trunk of a car. Well, on Kathy Nickolaus' computer. What a surprise.

Translation - WAHHHHH! We lost, WAHHHHH!

Votes weren't "found" they were counted - learn the difference. No matter how many people the union leaders try to truck in from all over the country, Prosser still won - deal with it.

Scott Walker's budget will KO a $3.6 Billion budget deficit and result in a $300 Million surplus - something that democrats in this state simply cannot comprehend!

  • 6 votes
#1.15 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:19 PM EDT
RV in GB#1

Idle,

The election was won by Prosser - how you get over that is up to you.

1. If Walker had wanted Wisconsin to be a right to work state, he could have done it already.

2. Get an ID card (at no cost) then vote. It literally is that simple.

3. I'd compare it to what is being done in Ohio, New Jersey, Massachusetts...it is called balancing a budget. Doyle and the Democrats were never familiar with that. Get used to it, it is the future.

4. Ok - you aren't the only one to make a mistake like that - I do it all the time.

5. I am comparing unions to those companies (by the way, Koch has a UNION paper mill in Green Bay, blows your mind, doesn't it?) Just because you choose to look the other way mean it doesn't happen.

  • 5 votes
#1.16 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:31 PM EDT
Zoolopolis

Thank you Teabaggers. /s

It took full blown rebellion to overthrow this kind of regime in Middle-East.

Hopefully votes still work.

  • 5 votes
#1.17 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:31 PM EDT
RaisedByWolves

AI, good to see you still again! Here's hoping that all is well and will continue to be so.

Now, I've heard that the new voter ID law in WI will cost an additional 7 million. Hmmm, budget conscious?

I've also heard that Walker is closing 10 DMV offices to make sure fewer people can get their IDs.

Both of these points were from the Ed Show last week, so they are probably still up on his site.

Now, have you all heard of a group called ALEC? American Legislative Exchange - created by the Birchers back in the 70s, but still going strong. They proposed the legislation that has passed in these states as models for getting the Koch Bros. agenda passed (Koch Bros are major funders of this lovely group). The Nation had an article on them last week, and there is something called ALECexposed.org that goes further into their nefarious attempts to destroy democracy. (I might be wrong about the ALECexposed.org; so, I'll look that up in a few and be back to confirm.

  • 5 votes
#1.18 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:53 PM EDT
American Idle

Rv, read the stories, people are having a hard time getting their voter IDs. I've given you plenty of info; check it out. You don't do anything but spill screed.

Of course Walker doesn't want to do RTW now! But it was on his agenda. This is all coming out of ALEC, as RaisedByWolves points out above.

Sorry, but the people are not supporting the extreme Walker/GOP/ALEC/Koch agenda.

Poll: 59 Percent Disapprove Of Walker's Performance

We all know the BS election of Prosser was rigged. Spin it anyway you like.

  • 8 votes
#1.19 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:26 PM EDT
American Idle

RaisedByWolves, good to be back. You are right on about ALEC. What a scam. Funded by giant corps, pushing legisllation, but, oh, no, they're not lobbying so they aren't required to report anything.

Two great sources:

Publicopoly Exposed -- In These Times great investigative journalism

ALEC Exposed - web site documenting ALEC's actions; revealing and disturbing in the extreme!

Rich people run amok!

  • 7 votes
#1.20 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:31 PM EDT
Rorschach-558483

RV in GB#1

Votes weren't "found" they were counted - learn the difference.

Yeah, "found" two days later, by a GOP party hack / clerk with a previous history of irregularities, in a historically heated and controversial judicial election with a ridiculous amount of Koch money floating around.

  • Prosser is Nickolaus’ Former Boss: Throughout the 1990s, Nickolaus worked for the Wisconsin State Assembly’s Republican Caucus. For much of that time, Justice Prosser was the GOP Minority Leader and then the Speaker of the Assembly. So Prosser was Nickolaus’ boss.
  • Nickolaus Received Immunity For Testimony On A Campaign Scandal: In 2001, the partisan caucuses in the state legislature were investigated for alleged illegal use of state resources to secretly run campaigns. Nickolaus received immunity in return for her testimony about her role in this scandal.
  • Nickolaus Has Blown Vote Counts In The Past: Nickolaus once posted the wrong outcome in a local school board race, before her error was caught and the correct outcome was posted.
  • Nickolaus Was Audited After She Moved Official Data To Her Personal Computers: Her county’s Executive Committee ordered an audit of her office after they discovered that she “removed the election results collection and tallying system from the county computer network . . . and installed it on standalone personal computers in her office.

Find your honesty. If the situation were reversed you'd be summoning the ghost of Jimmy Hoffa to testify that he'd posthumously voted Dem seven times per candidate.

  • 6 votes
#1.21 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:00 PM EDT
American Idle

There's an investigation happening...

Lawyer named to investigate Nickolaus complaint

Waukesha - A former Dane County deputy district attorney who is now a criminal defense attorney has notified the JoAnne Kloppenburg campaign that he is investigating the campaign's April 20 complaint accusing Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus of misconduct in carrying out her election duties during the spring election for state Supreme Court.

Melissa Mulliken, manager for the Kloppenburg campaign, said Wednesday she had recently been notified by attorney Tim Verhoff that he was following up on the complaint she filed with the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board.

She had urged the board to appoint a special investigator so that an objective, thorough investigation would be ensured. The board has apparently done so, Mulliken said.

  • 8 votes
#1.22 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:40 PM EDT
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Bubba-939441

You guys gotta chance to get rid of him in the recall. Go for it. If 59% disapprove of his performance it should be a piece of cake.

  • 7 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:38 PM EDT
kj031056-1

Don't you worry, we will......Unfortunately we have to wait until January to do it....and who knows what will be left of our great state by then.....

  • 22 votes
#2.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
American Idle

Dems are eyballing the recall for November 2012 to tie it in with the general elections, which, they believe, will attract more of the Dem base. A spring recall might coincide with GOP primaries, which would beef up repubs.

Or so the story goes.

People are talk to here on the ground say, "The sooner the better!"

  • 25 votes
#2.2 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:57 PM EDT
katiekay-543258

When I first heard that they wanted to move the recall election to next November, I was pissed. But after thinking about it and why, I think its a good idea. Way more people will turn out and our shot at getting rid of Walker is almost certain. I understand that waiting that long is not good for us in Wisconsin, but if the recalls are successful, it will shut down any further harm he plans to do to our wonderful state, and when we get somebody in there that actually cares about what happens here in Wisconsin instead of lining his own pockets, we can hopefully reverse some of his horrible policies, starting with the union busting.

  • 8 votes
#2.3 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:08 AM EDT
American Idle

I get it strategically, but on a gut level, I'm still thinking the sooner the better.

  • 5 votes
#2.4 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:16 PM EDT
stormshadow

That's probably true AI- mainly for the simple reason that a gnat and the typical voter have about the same attention span.

That's why we need to keep CONSTANTLY reminding ppl of these stunts.

  • 6 votes
#2.5 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:25 PM EDT
RaisedByWolves

If the legislative recalls go as planned, he will just sit there vetoing bills and twiddling his thumbs until the Nov. '12 elections. Might be OK.

The petitions for recall are printed and ready for dissemination in January, but I can understand that cost might be a factor, considering that he is trying to destroy the firm economic base of WI before he leaves.

  • 5 votes
#2.6 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:55 PM EDT
American Idle

Right now there are volunteers signing up voters who pledge to support the recall. that's how much interest there is. If the election were today, he'd be outta here but good.

  • 6 votes
#2.7 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:33 PM EDT
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steven-791492

Thanks for the update..... sadly in Ohio we are going threw much the same thing.

  • 14 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT
American Idle

I know Ohio will be voting to repeal SB 5, but I understand you don't have recall there. Kasich. What an asshat! Walker twin. Tweedle Dumb and Dumber.

  • 17 votes
#3.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:59 PM EDT
katiekay-543258

Good luck Steven in Ohio. I feel for ya. A Wisconsin resident here. The only way we will change things is to get involved and group together with like minded people.

  • 9 votes
#3.2 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:10 AM EDT
RaisedByWolves

I just wish I lived in a state that might have a chance of changing the status quo. Here in Georgia, the asshats are in charge and plan to stay in charge. There has been talk about the Dems mounting an attack here, and I, for one, hope its as successful as Gen. Sherman's WITHOUT the fires, of course.

  • 7 votes
#3.3 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:57 PM EDT
American Idle

Raised, I worked in GA briefly. I felt so bad for people there. What an oppressive political environment. this was back in the late 1980s. sounds like it hasn't improved much.

  • 4 votes
#3.4 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:34 PM EDT
RaisedByWolves

No change at all. Chambliss (sen) did a hatchet job on a triple amputee Viet Nam vet, and the voters fell for it. Of course, here in Georgia, voters is sort of an interesting name for white people because the people of color, even if they have ID (yeah, we have that nasty law here), they are likely to get a provisional ballot which of course just doesn't seem to be counted. The Gov. is former Congressperson Nathan Deal - who had to resign before he was booted out and jailed. The last election had a few little problems that are investigated - 100K going to his daughter-in-law out of the funds. Hmmm.

Of course, down in Macon, the stars and bars flies and the KKK hold rallies. I live in a district that was Gingrich's old district and there isn't even a Dem to vote for! The only place that is fun and reasonable and progressive is Atlanta, and still there are problems, like this horrible cheating scandal in school testing. These kids down here are not well educated at all, and the teachers all sound ignorant to me, at least ignorant of the principle parts of speech and proper verb tense.

  • 5 votes
#3.5 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:48 PM EDT
American Idle

Sorry to hear that. I met many fine people while I was there.

I remember that horrible election where Chambliss accused Max Clelland, a war hero, of siding with the Taliban and Osama bin Laden.

Really disgraceful.

  • 7 votes
#3.6 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:20 PM EDT
RaisedByWolves

Thank you, AI, for recalling Max's name. I was writing from the seat of my pants last night, and his name was just not there. He is a good, honorable man. And Chambliss just won re-election.

There are many fine people here, and a lot of this part of the state is very LBGT friendly. But, since I do have Georgia roots in my bio-dad having been born here, I've seen the shallowness of their initial politeness and wonder if they mean it. Like the Brenda Johnson character on The Closer who says "thank you so much" and it was revealed in plot a season or two ago that it doesn't really mean that as much as "eff you". Well, throughout most of the southern states, the phrase "bless her/his/their heart(s)" is actually a curse upon that organ, I guess the "y'all come back again, hear?" means "don't let the door hit your behind on the way out".

  • 4 votes
#3.7 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:52 AM EDT
American Idle

Just for you...

I was union organizing there. I almost got run over a few times passing out leaflets. One of the other organizers was black. Atlanta itself was OK, but we were staying out in the burbs...Peachtree City or something... and you would have thought we were from outer space the way people looked at us.

  • 6 votes
#3.8 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:25 AM EDT
RaisedByWolves

One of my all time favorites out of Motown! That and "You ain't Done Nothing" - Wonder.

I've had the "are you a Martian" look from time to time. I'm a hugger, and I have always had black friends. It seems I make more black friends here than anyone else. So, I hug in public, and am amazed at the jaw drops around me!

I'm outside of ATL myself - West of the city in Paulding County. Ha! Wouldn't you know I'd be in Gringrich's old district! Some Karma at work, methinks.

  • 6 votes
#3.9 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:56 PM EDT
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Bootstraps
WI job numbers jump biggest since 2003 Link

WI unemployment at 7.6% , Nation at 9.2%. I blame Walker

  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:13 PM EDT
American Idle

Boot, back so soon after your suspension? And armed with more erroneous GOP talking points, I see. Oh, well. You bound not to like this...

GOP job counters need a math lesson

Adding jobs is sure better than losing them -- although most of the new jobs in Wisconsin last month were in the low-wage hospitality and food service arenas. And with more people looking for work, the state unemployment rate actually ticked higher in June.

But claims that Wisconsin accounted for half of the nation's employment growth last month are pure fantasy.

In fact, Wisconsin didn't manage to crack into the top five states in job growth, even with its best monthly performance since 2003.

Yeah, our vacation resorts did some hiring...low wage, temp jobs. Now go spend some money in Wisconsin Dells. Maybe the workers will get a nickel raise.

  • 19 votes
#4.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:20 PM EDT
Bootstraps

I used seasonally adjusted #'s and I will take 6th in job growth.

  • 4 votes
#4.2 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:08 PM EDT
American Idle

So unemployment rose in Wisconsin and nationally from May to June.

Nothing to crow about.

  • 5 votes
#4.3 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:19 PM EDT
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mgbirish

Tweedle Dumb and Dumber.

Throw in Mitch Daniels and you have Tweedle Dumb, Dumber and Dumbest!!!

  • 20 votes
Reply#5 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:15 PM EDT
American Idle

Sounds like something Donald Rumsfeld would say.

  • 10 votes
#5.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:20 PM EDT
RaisedByWolves

I wish I could say that these three are the biggest "unknowns" ever, but we now know them all to well.

  • 4 votes
#5.2 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:58 PM EDT
PaPa23

How about Larry, Curley and Moe or would that be insulting the Stooges too much?

  • 2 votes
#5.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:08 PM EDT
American Idle

Oh, no you didn't!......

  • 3 votes
#5.4 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:11 PM EDT
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certs2345

When a liberal wins, it's a public mandate. When a conservative wins, it's racist white people rigging the system. You and your heros lost because America has seen the results your policies bring...and would rather get the almost as bad republicans back in office than another rounds of your liberals vote pandering.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:40 PM EDT
Bubba-939441

When a conservative wins, it's racist white people rigging the system

You mean racist white union busters.

  • 9 votes
#6.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:02 PM EDT
American Idle

Make that "racist white tea-bagging koch-whoring union busters"

<<on the verge of CoH violation!>>

  • 22 votes
#6.2 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:23 PM EDT
certs2345

<<on the verge of CoH violation!>>

Ohh ohh, I speak liberal. Let me interpret. "people disagreeing with me. must censor"

  • 2 votes
#6.3 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:48 PM EDT
Bubba-939441

cents, they collapse and delete my posts when they disagree with my comments. You gotta play their game on here.

  • 2 votes
#6.4 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:55 PM EDT
American Idle

certs, did you think I was addressing my last comment to you? I was saying I was on the verge of CoH violation.

hard to tell person's intent sometimes

  • 2 votes
#6.5 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:20 PM EDT
RaisedByWolves

And, I think we forgot to add "asshat" to the description.

  • 4 votes
#6.6 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:00 PM EDT
American Idle

gotta luv the imagery

  • 2 votes
#6.7 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:36 PM EDT
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genevieveva

All the issues in this article are now a national problem. Florida passed similar laws and drastically shortened the time needed for those that use the "absentee ballad". The Republican party has excluded the disabled vote, those that serve this nation vote, etc.. They have done a great deal of harm by imposing more government restrictions into all teaparty/Republican states. Their states will be republican votes only. The people's vote will mean nothing.

  • 11 votes
Reply#7 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:12 PM EDT
American Idle

Right out of the GOP/ALEC/Koch bros playbook.

ALEC Exposed: Rigging Elections

  • 17 votes
#7.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:24 PM EDT
RaisedByWolves

Oh, WOO HOO, AI, I posted a reply above about this group, ALEC. Thanks for posting the URL, I knew I messed something up, but was reading through the seed before I went looking for the correct site.

  • 5 votes
#7.2 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:01 PM EDT
American Idle

no worries

more links posted above

: - )

  • 4 votes
#7.3 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:37 PM EDT
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tyler-1708225

Unions are having a hard time getting members to pay their dues now that it is voluntary and not mandated and the state won't be their collection agency?  Sounds like the members are not to supportive of their own unions, just like they don't patronize union shops, instead going to Walmart and Sam's Club.

  • 3 votes
Reply#8 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:17 PM EDT
American Idle

They have been supportive but they are took big pay cuts thanks to Walker and the GOP. It especially hurts folks at the lower end of the pay scale. I've been to meetings where workers are wondering how they are going to pay their bills.

The other part is that the new law strips away collective bargaining rights, so workers, when faced with tough economic choices, have to ask themselves whether they can afford to pay for membership now under these circumstances.

The bill also requires the unions to "re-cerify" every year, which means going through annual elections that will use up all their financial resources. Some unions are going back to basic, saying to hell with certification, we were a union without the paper long ago and we can do it again.

Now workers are talking about job actions to show their solidarity as union members and to protest what's being done to them.

  • 13 votes
#8.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:30 PM EDT
tyler-1708225

They took big pay cuts? Who are you kidding? They were made to pay more for their benefits. A good percent of Americans have taken pay cuts or lost their jobs. These state employees are making good money yet.

  • 5 votes
#8.2 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:43 PM EDT
Michelle-340891

Tyler: And you have a problem with the fact that someone other than corporate CEOs and the like are still getting "good money"?!? We should all be applauding the fact that there are a few middle class jobs out there yet that DO provide a decent wage, and a group of people who are working to keep those jobs HERE, in THIS country, instead of doing our best to destroy them, as the Rebaglicons seem intent on doing. Get rid of the Unions at your own peril. Once they're gone, very little will stand in the way of a complete corporate takeover of EVERY aspect of our lives.

  • 9 votes
#8.3 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:07 AM EDT
Agent 57

A good percent of Americans have taken pay cuts or lost their jobs. These state employees are making good money yet.

sounds like class envy... hmmmm.... had this same conversation the other day...

Americans are being sold a bad bill of goods by corporate America & their bought & paid for republican legislators... and the citizens on the right for whatever damn stupid reason has latched onto it like a dog on a bone...

we are now told .. you're damn lucky to have a job, better take what we give you ... all the while corporate profits are increasing exponentially... and the wealth of those who run this dog and pony show has increased 400% while mine and yours is stagnant or losing ground...

I'm certain that Joe CEO is not working 400x's harder ... nope .. sure of that.. but they've become 400 X's greedier and at our expense... and the republicans in congress are along for the ride also at our expense bleeding America's wealth to death like a leech... just letting these morons write laws to protect themselves while we are worse off....

and the little teaparty patriots are just lapping this bull@!$%# up like a beaten dog happy for a scrap... I know for certain who has the class envy and they keep kissing the asses of the wealthy..

  • 11 votes
#8.4 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:24 AM EDT
American Idle

Michelle, Agent, thank you for participating in the enlightenment of our fellow Newsviner.

Tyler, YES, PAY CUTS. That's what they are. There were pay cuts BEFORE the Walker deal and now there are even more. Try to keep up.

  • 9 votes
#8.5 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:32 AM EDT
RaisedByWolves

ANd those that are left, be they union or private sector are being told to do the production of 2-3 people or they will lose their jobs.

When the executives of corps make 400 times the money of the workers something is seriously wrong, heads on pikes wrong.

  • 5 votes
#8.6 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:03 PM EDT
American Idle

glad you mentioned that, Raised

went to a meeting of worker activists and they were all talking about 'speed up'...these were state workers

working harder for less, speedup is the definition

more info about that meeting here...

  • 5 votes
#8.7 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:39 PM EDT
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stormshadow

Let's get the recalls completed first off. That puts the brakes on Walker's psychopathic agendas. THEN we can worry about rescinding all the BS already shoved through the system.

  • 6 votes
#9 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:39 PM EDT
American Idle

you're right

thing is, even if we win all the recalls it's going to be a heavy lift reversing everything because the repubs will still be in charge of the assembly. good news is they will all be up for election nov. 2012.

  • 11 votes
#9.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:42 PM EDT
stormshadow

well bear in mind, the detail that everyone thought would be a major factor- (Prosser CONVENIENTLY having enough ballots FOUND in a trunk to be reelected) well.. Prosser has his own issues to contend with with the allegations of him choking a staffer. Something tells me the SC on WI won't be as repug friendly as it was :)

I daresay there's PLENTY of ammunition to take those laws shoved through in short term to court. Costly, yes unfortunately, but necessary.

  • 8 votes
#9.2 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:01 PM EDT
tyler-1708225

But then it seems like Bradley could be lying too, why do you think the story is no longer front page headlines. And the dems have been whining since they lost a sitting judge back in 2007 to a republican. Losing to Prosser this time shows them having a bigger temper tantrum. You need to look at that side of the story before making predictions. You could start by researching who it was Prosser is accused of choking, it wasn't a staffer.

  • 1 vote
#9.3 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:05 PM EDT
stormshadow

Time will tell I suppose.

  • 2 votes
#9.4 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:07 PM EDT
American Idle

Wisconsin poll...

  • Supreme Court approval plummets
  • The survey, conducted in the wake of allegations of a physical altercation between Wisconsin Justices David Prosser and Ann Walsh Bradley, confirms that tensions on the court are having a negative effect on public confidence.

    Eighty-four percent of respondents said they were aware of these allegations, first reported by the Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism and Wisconsin Public Radio. And 80 percent reported knowing about an incident in which Justice Prosser called Chief Justice Shirley Abrahamson a profane word and threatened to “destroy” her during an argument.

    • 12 votes
    #9.5 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:14 PM EDT
    stormshadow

    nice AI.. I hadn't seen that one before.

    • 4 votes
    #9.6 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:17 PM EDT
    tyler-1708225

    And, Al, that has nothing to do with the present accusations against Prosser. The SC in Wisconsin is having negative effect on public confidence is right and that goes for both parties.

    • 1 vote
    #9.7 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:22 PM EDT
    American Idle

    storm...hot topic here; two agencies are investigating, but keeping it pretty under wraps.

    tyler..did you read the article? Seriously, don't know how you can believe Prosser's conduct has nothing to do with it.

    • 11 votes
    #9.8 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:30 PM EDT
    tyler-1708225

    Yeh, they were slow getting the investigation going since those who should have done it were connected with the democrat party. Six people were in the room, two say Prosser choked her and four say Bradley attacked him. They all tried to keep the incident quiet, but it leaked out 10 days later. You come across as it being cut and dried against Prosser, but people in general are disgusted with all of them.

      #9.9 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:38 PM EDT
      stormshadow

      so it turns into the classic "He said, She said" routine...

      • 3 votes
      #9.10 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:46 PM EDT
      American Idle

      btw, there is no such thing as the "democrat party"

      it's the Democratic Party

      WisDems: The Democratic Party of Wisconsin

      As for your account of events, Tyler, I have never seen a report like the one you describe, and I'm interested in where you got your information.

      • 8 votes
      #9.11 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:30 PM EDT
      RaisedByWolves

      I was watching The Ed Show when this came up; seems Prosser tried to strangle Bradley. Nice guy.

      • 1 vote
      #9.12 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:04 PM EDT
      American Idle

      He disputes that he tried to "strangle" her per se, however he did have his hands around her throat.

      It's still under investigation. He's got a problem with women. He once called state supreme court chief justice shirley abrahamson a "bitch" that he was going to "destroy."

      • 2 votes
      #9.13 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:50 PM EDT
      RaisedByWolves

      And the other definition for what you are doing with your hands around another's neck is? What a piece of work.

      • 4 votes
      #9.14 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:50 PM EDT
      American Idle

      Hmmm...rearranging her esophagus?

      • 2 votes
      #9.15 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:21 PM EDT
      stormshadow

      physically tuning her vocal chords of course..

      my guess is she had a choir rehearsal that night.. lol

      • 2 votes
      #9.16 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:09 PM EDT
      RaisedByWolves

      And they couldn't get Joe Cocker!

      • 3 votes
      #9.17 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:53 AM EDT
      Reply
      SoNotRight.

      Arrogance and in-your-face defiance are not the qualities most want to see in their governor. Walker's attitude has been "my way or the highway", well, I say show him the highway.

      • 11 votes
      Reply#10 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:10 PM EDT
      American Idle

      yeah, but he wouldn't want that in the winter time; he screwed the state's snowplow drivers over too.

      • 8 votes
      #10.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:16 PM EDT
      RaisedByWolves

      All the better for showing him the road out of Fitzwalkerstan, while changing the state's signage back to Wisconsin.

      • 2 votes
      #10.2 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:05 PM EDT
      Reply
      tyler-1708225

      If paying more for their benefits is screwing them over, it's about time. The teachers in my district are now paying 15% for their insurance, up from 3.75%. Meanwhile the support staff, custodians, food service workers in the schools have been paying 15% for quite some time already and they have smaller salaries. The teachers needed to be brought to the same level as the "little guy" they claim to be fighting for. They want the bigger salaries, the least amount of contribution to their benefits and then they shop at Walmart and Sam Club's for the cheapest prices. And they have you roped in on how badly they are suffering.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#11 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:34 PM EDT
      American Idle

      tyler, do NOT tell me who I am, got it? You have no clue.

      The deal is NOBODY should have to take that kind of hit. The other thing is, whatever people had before was the result of contract negotiations; you get something for something else. Oftentimes unions will take lower wages in exchanged for benefits, and that is certainly the case with teachers and also state workers, who have been in concession mode for years.

      So, there was agreement; workers gave something up to get benefits, then these jerks come in and piss all over them to hide the massive giveaways they are making to wealthy individuals and corporations.

      BTW, you have no idea who shops where. That's just silly.

      • 13 votes
      #11.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:42 PM EDT
      tyler-1708225

      Don't tell me these union members aren't shopping at Walmart and Sam's Club, they are seen there, cars with their union bumper stickers are all over the lot, members of their families work there. And I don't care what those union people bargained for at one time, this is now and they have to give the same as the rest of us. Where does their right to "have" supercede anyone else's right to not pay for their greed. Does it ever occur to them that if they chip in more, we pay less and maybe can have more of our income to take care of us. Some where along the line these state workers got greedy, got some idea they were the elite and it's about time they start taking losses the same as the rest of the nation who has had to. They are by no means special.

      • 1 vote
      #11.2 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:53 PM EDT
      tyler-1708225

      "So, there was agreement; workers gave something up to get benefits, then these jerks come in and piss all over them to hide the massive giveaways they are making to wealthy individuals and corporations."

      These jerks come in? You do know that retirees have been seeing a reduction in their pension checks for at least 2 if not 3 years already, don't you? If the money isn't there now, where do you think it is coming from in the future. It's just a debt piling up that can't be honored. You do know it was a democrat governor that gave them so many "perks" he could not back up with funding, don't you? You do know that same democrat governor refused to hear their negotiations before leaving office, don't you? That he wouldn't even attempt to honor the contracts made under his administration.

      • 2 votes
      #11.3 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:02 PM EDT
      certs2345

      Union workers don't count as the "rich" liberals want to tax because they have the union vote.

      • 2 votes
      #11.4 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:15 PM EDT
      American Idle

      tyler, again the adjective is "Democratic"...if you can't even get that right, what else are you getting wrong?

      I guess you don't understand what "concessions" means. In our family, we know that in a very real sense, with wages going, health care premiums going up, and that was the result of bargaining with a Democratic administration.

      I can only imagine the attacks that would have been launched at Gov. Doyle if he had finished up bargaining with the unions before Walker took office. Look at what you are posting here; it doesn't make sense. If there was some "collusion"( as as I hear people like you alleging all the time) between unions and Democratic administrations, why didn't the unions get their contracts and better deals before Walker came in?

      The fact is these contracts are always WAY behind. Always. By a year or more. Yeah, it's a bureaucracy, but that's just the way it is. State workers here have understood that and been patient, they earn LESS--including wages and benefits--on average than workers in comparable employment, with the only exception being blue collar workers, who are terribly underpaid and exploited just about everywhere.

      Are Wisconsin Public Employees Over-compensated?

      To summarize, our study shows that Wisconsin public employees earn 4.8% less in total compensation per hour than comparable full-time employees in Wisconsin’s private sector.

      It would be nice if you could back up your statements with some credible sources. All I'm getting from you are rightwing talking points we've all heard before.

      • 8 votes
      #11.5 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:51 PM EDT
      American Idle

      certs, what? Are you suggesting that there are union members in publikc service who make money like the millionaires and billionaires that Dems say should pay more in taxes? Really?

      Wow.

      • 7 votes
      #11.6 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:53 PM EDT
      RaisedByWolves

      This is typical, AI. Let's balance the nation's budget by taxing the old, the feeble, the poor. Greedy bloodsuckers.

      • 2 votes
      #11.7 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:07 PM EDT
      American Idle

      I keep asking, "Where is the morality?"

      How much more do these greedy @!$%#s want?

      • 5 votes
      #11.8 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:51 PM EDT
      Agent 57

      I keep asking, "Where is the morality?"

      How much more do these greedy @!$%#s want?

      Ummm.. All??

      • 3 votes
      #11.9 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:42 PM EDT
      American Idle

      Of course. <duh>

      • 2 votes
      #11.10 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:23 PM EDT
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      BLOGER-486140

      They have to disenfranchise everyone. In the last year they have managed to alienate a huge population of folks. Hispanics,gays, Muslims, atheist, city, state and federal employee, union members, pro choice women, women who do not submit to their god favored husbands... In any races where Republicans are not the clear majority they are going to be decimated.

      • 7 votes
      Reply#12 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:55 PM EDT
      American Idle

      Bloger, how long do you think they can get away with that stuff? Are people catching on? Seriously, why would anybody support this? It exhibits such complete contempt for people.

      • 6 votes
      #12.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:55 PM EDT
      RaisedByWolves

      The only way to ensure that our voting rights are reinstated is to change the makeup of SCOTUS. Less Clarence Thomas and Scalia would be a great place to start: Koch Bros. lackeys.

      • 5 votes
      #12.2 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:08 PM EDT
      American Idle

      I have a lawyer friend who is so discouraged by the takeover of our state and federal Supreme "Corps" that she says workers just ought to resort to job actions to get their point across. Seriously, I'm all for a general strike, but people are scared and just aren't there yet.

      • 4 votes
      #12.3 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:53 PM EDT
      RaisedByWolves

      Just watch this debt ceiling thing go to hell. A general strike needs to happen, and that might be the catalyst.

      • 4 votes
      #12.4 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:52 PM EDT
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      Emmadadog

      AI

      When I first started looking for your posts months ago, I was shocked and stunned by the lengths the Republican TParty would go in Wisconsin. And more than a little frightened.

      As your enlightening posts kept coming, my shock turned to insult that the leaders of Wisconsin were deaf, dumb and blind to their constituents.

      Now, I just sigh heavily and roll my eyes. I have come to the opinion that Gov. Walker and his ilk are insisting on digging their plutocratic hole deeper. Their rhetoric is frenzied and confusing as they run their state with incomprehensible double-speak.

      I think you have them running around in circles, desperately trying to find a way to stem the overwhelming tide of voter disapproval.

      But, I warn you, do not, under any circumstances let down your guard or turn your back on them.

      Again, it is sooooooooooooooooo good to have you and your insightful stories back.

      • 8 votes
      Reply#13 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:08 PM EDT
      American Idle

      Emmadadog, good to be back with my NV friends. A lot happened in between. It was stunning how much had transpired. The biggest deal was the budget, which is really awful, and inflicts so much pain on just regular folks. Still, they are always coming up with ways to fight back.

      People working hard on those recalls; numbers looking good for at least four of the six Dems challenging incumbent Repubs.

      And ya gotta love the folks who dog Walker with protests everywhere he goes.

      Go, Cheeseheads!

      • 8 votes
      #13.1 - Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:14 PM EDT
      RaisedByWolves

      On, WIsconsin!

      • 4 votes
      #13.2 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:08 PM EDT
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      baddestbob

      one need only to look at the number of claimsof voter fraud that are even prosecuted to see that this is an attempt to keep voter participation down. they are virtually nonexistent. the republicans know that large turnouts = slim chance for their success on election day. voter suppression, like all other things is a republican attempt to subvert the very document they claim to adhere to. they are mugging the united states middle class and poor and taking away the only means we have to stop them: the vote.

      • 5 votes
      Reply#14 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:18 PM EDT
      American Idle

      OOPS!

      GOP legislative aide under investigation for voter fraud

      A Republican legislative aide is under investigation for possible vote fraud after she cast her ballot in the November election in Onalaska although she lives in Madison.

      La Crosse County District Attorney Tim Gruenke said he has forwarded the report from the Onalaska Police Department to Dane County District Attorney Ismael Ozanne to see if criminal charges are warranted against Marcie Malszycki, 30, an aide to state Rep. Warren Petryk, R-Eleva.

      Records from the Government Accountability Board show Malszycki voted in Onalaska on Nov. 2, 2010, and Nov. 4, 2008, at the same time she had a home in Madison and worked at the state Capitol. Messages left with Malszycki by email, phone and Facebook weren't returned.

      • 4 votes
      Reply#15 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:23 PM EDT
      baddestbob

      ann coulter was found to have voted twice in an election, in florida and conneticut. for them to make an issue out of voter fraud is in and of itself fraudulent. kinda like having ted bundy as the presiding judge at dahmer's trial.

      • 4 votes
      Reply#16 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:28 PM EDT
      American Idle

      LOL!

      • 3 votes
      #16.1 - Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:54 PM EDT
      Reply
      Pamela Drew

      Thanks for the remarkable continuing coverage, you've done a far better job than the traditional news in covering every aspect of this struggle. For that wonderful reporting we know you'll never have a job in MSM but for those of us who appreciate the truth and investigative coverage, you are a priceless voice, write on!! :~)

      • 5 votes
      Reply#17 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 9:57 AM EDT
      American Idle

      Pamela, thank you so much for that. I'm just a person here at ground zero. It's fascinating and infuriating.

      Though I had to pull back for a couple of months (a family thing), I'm slowly working my way back into the fray. These people are incredibly determined.

      More to come...

      • 3 votes
      #17.1 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:28 AM EDT
      Agent 57

      Glad to have you back AI... :))

      • 4 votes
      #17.2 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:59 AM EDT
      American Idle

      Good to be back, Agent. Thanks.

      • 4 votes
      #17.3 - Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:12 PM EDT
      Pamela Drew

      We're all glad to have you back & happy real life conditions make it possible to share you here! <3

      • 3 votes
      #17.4 - Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:53 PM EDT
      American Idle

      You all give me so much to life up to!

      Thanks again.

      • 3 votes
      #17.5 - Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:32 PM EDT
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