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Benignly Named Tea Party Is a Terrible Threat to U.S.

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A lot of people are very concerned about the ascendency of the rabid right, a la Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh et al. The racism is virulent, the hatred palpable. This goes way beyond any concerns about political parties but rather deep into the very heart and soul of our nation.

Heed the words of Michael Cook in his Letter to the Editor of the Tico Times. Residing in both Gloucester, MA and Puerto Rico, Cook issues a clarion call to action in the face of the growing threat from the extreme right.

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Benignly Named Tea Party Is a Terrible Threat to U.S.

Dear Tico Times:

This is an open letter to all Democrats living in Costa Rica and elsewhere in Central America .

Please make sure you take the time to vote in November's U.S. elections. In many ways, the stakes have not been higher in a very long time.

I hear many expats, Democrats and Republicans alike, frequently and cavalierly blowing off politics back here in the States. After all, their reasoning goes, they don't live in the U.S. anymore, so why should they care?

Well, Democrats had better take the time to care because what's on the move in the U.S. today, frequently wrapped in the benign-sounding label of the "Tea Party," is little more than an early 21st century, North American version of the kind of early 20th century European fascism that swept much of the Continent in the economically troubled times in the years after World War I.

A key element of European fascism's success at acquiring power, especially in Germany , was to practice the "politics of the other."

Adolph Hitler and others in the Nazi Party became experts at exploiting ordinary Germans' anger over their severe economic problems by convincing them it was the "others" – Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, trade unionists – anyone but "real Germans," who were responsible for the country's woes. The strategy, tragically for Germany and ultimately the world, worked like a charm.

A similar trend is under way today in the U.S.; driven by an extremely well-funded, sophisticated, and organized right-wing political/corporate apparatus that has cowed the Republican Party, the once honorable party of Abraham Lincoln; and ginned up a level of anger at North America's "others" that has now crossed the line from ugly propaganda into overt acts of violence. So intimidated are the Democrats and President Barack Obama that they seem at a loss as to how to respond.

Today in the U.S. , the "others" are immigrants, people of color in general, homosexuals and, of course, Muslim Americans.

Events are escalating at a dangerously rapid rate, and should the candidates this movement has spawned – using the once distinguished GOP as a vehicle – gain real political power in November, one can be sure things will escalate still further. And despite how tough the last three years have been, things will get much worse, and not just economically.

So, to all my fellow Democrats, please be sure to vote this November. At the risk of sounding melodramatic, the stakes have rarely been higher.

Michael Cook
Gloucester, Massachusetts, USA
and Puerto Viejo de Limón

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American Idle

Sorry, I may be unable to respond to comments; going out of town. I hope this encourages thoughtful consideration and discussion.

Also, my apologies for posting the text, but as ID'd on the Tico Times web site, it appeared the posting would be temporary.

Please share via email or other means; do not have to link to this blog. I'm not doing this for points. Copy, paste, mail.... just make sure people see it.

Thank you, One and All. Happy Labor Day.

  • 13 votes
#1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 4:09 AM EDT
Truth Hurts-840829

Events are escalating at a dangerously rapid rate

for liberals

cheers

:)

  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 8:13 AM EDT
Zoolopolis

"Events are escalating at a dangerously rapid rate

for liberals"

Truth, you're not concerned about Nazism in America? Your forefathers bleed and died to save the world from it. Now you blythely welcome it in our doors.

We don't need to shed our blood to stop it this time. All we have to do is vote this Nov.

  • 13 votes
#1.2 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:00 AM EDT
HappyToSeeYa

The August 30, 2010, issue of the New Yorker Magazine has an article entitled "Covert Operations" that is required reading for everybody. It details the prominence of billionaire brothers whose approach towards gaining a libertarian America is greatly enhanced by their billions in wealth to finance the operations of much of the opinion shaping the direction of our country. It's worth it to them because they want the right to unfettered interprise.

They "own" the tea potty. Their money buys a "public" university, a Smithsonian exhibit on climate change, judicial decisions on climate change, and public opinion outcry favoring their economic interests.

They don't deny their deep reach. They just don't discuss it. You notice that same pattern where tea potty candidates don't discuss their platforms?

Nothing is wrong about taking back your country. Be very careful of the agenda that's financing your take back efforts. Check to determine whether the financial backing gains more than do you. You and your fellow Americans won't have anything decent to claim after your financial backers get theirs first.

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:24 AM EDT
Naughtia

the right have been nazis for a long time.
prescott bush who conspired with the nazis also tried to overthrow America due to fdr.

the powell memo which is the foundation of the formation of the heritage group, talks about how corporations need to take over the politics of america.

And about how to control thought by editing text books.

these are republican ideals, just like racism and bigotry.

yeah they will scream and whine it isnt true and bring up dems from 40 years ago, the dixiecrats, you know like strom thurmond who later ran on the segregationist party and who later became a republican leader.

but they dems have no southern strategy which is now a nation wide strategy for the GOP.

sources

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy#Evolution
http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate_accountability/powell_memo_lewis.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar (how prescott bush conspired with hitler)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/240707fascistcoup.htm how bush's grandfather attempted a fascist coup.

these folks havent changed

  • 8 votes
#1.4 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:40 AM EDT
Zoolopolis

Happy, you're talking about the Koch Brothers? They're big oil guys so naturally they're against climate change laws.

They're filthy rich so they're against taxing the rich.

They're Georgia-Pacific plants pollute rivers so they're against the EPA.

Notice there's nothing about the good of the people anywhere in their agenda. Makes you wonder what the Teabaggers see in them. Unlimited funding to promote their racist agenda?

Where have we seen industrialists funding a racist agenda before? Oh Yeah! Nazi Germany!

All these Teabaggers sucking on the teat of corporatists, you could call them 'Koch Suckers'.

  • 10 votes
#1.5 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:43 AM EDT
GaryColumbus

Why don't we all just choose our weapons and side we want to be on and have at it? It's about time for a good ole civil revolutionary war. After we clean out all the elite / rich right-winged idiots and secessionist tea party mfers, the rest of us can live on peacefully in a World without Republicans. I see a very positive progression after exterminating all of them.

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:30 AM EDT
Brandon-801865

The Right is marinating in irrational hatred of every kind...because thinking is so hard.

But seriously, to those of you on the Right, at some deep level, you must at least have a few misgivings regarding the magnitude of sheer nuttiness that the Bagger "leaders" present with.

It really is a dangerous mixture.

  • 7 votes
#1.7 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:43 AM EDT
madvargr

Truth, you're not concerned about Nazism in America? Your forefathers bleed and died to save the world from it.

No, his forefathers were probably just as reactionary as he is. Like Bush's grandpappy who bankrolled the Nazi Party in Germany or the Koch's daddy who built all of Joseph Stalin's oil refineries, the right has a long and sordid history of doing anything for a quick buck, country be damned. If it had been left up to the reactionary right we would have fought alongside Germany in WW2, not against them.

  • 6 votes
#1.8 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 11:33 AM EDT
StevG-144

The vote coming up in going to be more important, then the last one. The republicans have already stated what they are going to do. First their going to undo every thing that's been done in the last year and a half. Then they are going tie up the government for the next two years with litigation and special prosecutors, and go after Obama and the democrats, with probes, and witch hunts. They love being bullies, and loved the power they get, like they went after Clinton during his terms and, they still think that's why Bush won the election, because they made Gore dirty by association. So that's Plan A just like last time. Don't do anything, and make the democrats look dirty to all of us, with their standard fear, hate, and lies, but know help of any kind, for the American people.

  • 6 votes
#1.9 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 12:11 PM EDT
Davy-755715

But the only thing keeping it alive is avoidance of substance, with sound bites containing only emotional "dirty words": spending, debt, jobs, illegal immigrants, etc. The moment the tea talking heads start specifying which programs they'd cut, and exactly how their job creation would work and what the jobs would pay, the scam will fall apart. Except, of course, with those who continue to gain wealth from this crap.

  • 2 votes
#1.10 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 3:42 PM EDT
HappyToSeeYa

Billionaire Koch Brothers Back Suspension Of California Climate Law Margot Roosevelt | 09/ 4/10 02:34 PM | SACRAMENTO, Calif. — Oil billionaires David and Charles Koch have jumped on board an effort to suspend California's global warming law by making a million-dollar contribution this week. A subsidiary of Wichita, Kan.-based Koch Industries, the nation's second-largest private company with oil refineries and pipelines, made a $1 million contribution Thursday to the campaign for Proposition 23. They join two Texas-based companies, Valero Energy Corp. and Tesoro Corp. According to the Los Angeles Times, a spokeswoman for Flint Hills Resources said the company "may consider additional support." California's global warming law, known as AB32, seeks to reduce greenhouse gas emissions statewide to 1990 levels over the next decade. Proposition 23 seeks to suspend California's 2006 law until the state's unemployment rate falls below 5.5 percent for four consecutive quarters. That level has happened three times in the last three decades, according to state statistics. The initiative is opposed by environmental groups, Democratic lawmakers and Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who called the contribution "extremely disappointing." Katie Stavinhoa, a Koch spokeswoman, said the company believes the law will cause "significant job losses and higher energy costs."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/04/billionaire-koch-brothers_n_705737.html

@Zoolopolis, yes that's who is the topic of my comment and it's going to be interesting nation-wide to see whether people vote for their own best interests or believe the hype that could make them serfs.

  • 2 votes
#1.11 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 5:28 PM EDT
Truth Hurts-840829

Truth, you're not concerned about Nazism in America?

and

the right have been nazis for a long time.

nazis to the left and nazis to the right...LOL

just so ya know who the nazi is....

hitler got elected with his campaign speeches of "we" and "us" and after he got office that turned to "me" and "mine" - sound familiar?

hitler was referred to as "the new Messiah" - who does that remind you of?

and this?

To appeal to the working class and socialists, hitlers programme included several measures that would redistribute income

now... that does not sound like bush to me - but does sound a lot like Obama - no doubt.

yepp the left is toast in NOV

cheers
:)

  • 3 votes
#1.12 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 8:44 PM EDT
American Idle

Here are some definitions of fascism:

World English Dictionary:

  1. any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism; any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism
  2. any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc, that may be characterized as right-wing, chauvinist, authoritarian, etc

Word Origin & History:

"A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion." [Robert O. Paxton, "The Anatomy of Fascism," 2004]

Cultural Dictionary:

A system of government that flourished in Europe from the 1920s to the end of World War II. Germany under Adolf Hitler, Italy under Mussolini, and Spain under Franco were all fascist states. As a rule, fascist governments are dominated by a dictator, who usually possesses a magnetic personality, wears a showy uniform, and rallies his followers by mass parades; appeals to strident nationalism; and promotes suspicion or hatred of both foreigners and “impure” people within his own nation, such as the Jews in Germany. Although both communism and fascism are forms of totalitarianism, fascism does not demand state ownership of the means of production, nor is fascism committed to the achievement of economic equality. In theory, communism opposes the identification of government with a single charismatic leader (the “ cult of personality”), which is the cornerstone of fascism. Whereas communists are considered left-wing, fascists are usually described as right-wing.

  • 2 votes
#1.13 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:18 PM EDT
JLeon-1895344

Does smaller, less intrusive governent = facism?

Does bigger , more government control via (laws, regulations, rules) = facism?

There are people that actually believe the tea party who empasizes individual freedom promotes Authoritarianism? There is nothing simlar between German Socialism and the tea party, nothing, nada.

Conversely, there is alot in common with todays liberal progressives and facism. The cult of personality and high level of government control.

Then there are those that believe the tea promotes a theocracy. Newsflash: The tea party is for the rule of law and the constitution.

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:00 PM EDT
tangojones

Conversely, there is alot in common with todays liberal progressives and facism. The cult of personality and high level of government control.

That neatly sums it up, Leo.

I would add the twin dangers of the politically correct 'tolerance and diversity' - to wit, the left's tolerance of islamo-fascism.

  • 2 votes
#1.15 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 9:32 AM EDT
Texasrodeoqueen

Daily Kos: Can You Tell The Difference Between Glenn Beck and ...

The similarities between the two are striking ... One is Glenn Beck; the other is infamous murderer Charles Manson. Can you tell the difference between the two?
www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/10/9/153823/113 - Cached

  • 1 vote
#1.16 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 4:10 PM EDT
JLeon-1895344

Texas: Another ridiculous Beck Hating post. Do you realize that radical islamist hate you and would like to see you dead? Do you think it matters if you are a bleeding heart liberal are a staunch conservative? They want all Westerners dead. They justify this through their religion. The same religion of all muslims. Beck asked a question that at the time was on the mine of most americans. Does the muslim faith really promote death to all westerners? Thats not bigoted nor racist. The author and I assume you try to make such, but it is not. It is an attempt to understand Islam.

Based on this story I must ask, what is the difference between you and Manson?

  • 2 votes
#1.17 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 4:49 PM EDT
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TheAntiObama

Newsvines idea of a Top Seed?

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 5:25 AM EDT
Naughtia

your idea of a worthwhile comment?

I have a feeling if this was an article about how their is proof Obama is a Muslim, you wouldn't have a problem with it.

Ever notice when the right have exactly zero response to the charges they come up with weak ass grade school crap like this?

I know it must be hard without someone on fox telling you how to respond, but try sometime.

  • 8 votes
#2.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:44 AM EDT
JLeon-1895344

To all anti-tea party children: One day you say the tea party is irrelevant, just a bunch of old white guys, then the next, cowards like the author of this article, and seed, claim the tea party is a terrible threat to the country. Can you be more cowardly than to call the tea party racist and then go on vacation?

Read carefully: I am the tea party, and until you paranoid liberals introduced me to the Koch brothers I had never heard of them. I, along with millions of others, want a smaller more effective and efficient government, one that stays out of my bedroom, my kitchen, my doctors office, my drive way and my pocket. Does that scare the hell out of you or not?

The threat we pose is to the status quo. Big goverment and big spending. If you have an interest in seeing the country go bankrupt, then we are a threat to you, if you or interested in having the government make decisions for you, then we might be a threat to you.

If not, you have nothing to fear, we are just a bunch of harmless old white guys. Remember from last week?

  • 2 votes
#2.2 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 11:40 AM EDT
TheAntiObama

The Mosque in New York is funded by Fox News.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/08/fox-shareholder-funded-mosque-imam/

I don't know if Obama is now a Muslim? I do have evidence he practiced the Islamic faith while going to schools in Muslim country's.

His religion is a non issue for me as all I care about is whether the Laws of the land are being upheld, and if my freedoms have been preserved.

This article is nothing more than the gist of your comment, a ad-hominem attack with no substance. I figured my comment to such pap was appropriate.

  • 3 votes
#2.3 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 6:25 AM EDT
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McSpocky

A similar trend is under way today in the U.S.; driven by an extremely well-funded, sophisticated, and organized right-wing political/corporate apparatus that has cowed the Republican Party, the once honorable party of Abraham Lincoln; and ginned up a level of anger at North America's "others" that has now crossed the line from ugly propaganda into overt acts of violence. So intimidated are the Democrats and President Barack Obama that they seem at a loss as to how to respond.

Today in the U.S. , the "others" are immigrants, people of color in general, homosexuals and, of course, Muslim Americans.

  • 12 votes
Reply#3 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
McSpocky

Events are escalating at a dangerously rapid rate, and should the candidates this movement has spawned – using the once distinguished GOP as a vehicle – gain real political power in November, one can be sure things will escalate still further. And despite how tough the last three years have been, things will get much worse, and not just economically.

So, to all my fellow Democrats, please be sure to vote this November. At the risk of sounding melodramatic, the stakes have rarely been higher.

This letter is correct. It it of the utmost importance that all Democrats vote in the election this fall. If Republicans gain control of this government, we are in for some hell.

  • 16 votes
#3.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 6:03 AM EDT
McSpocky

A key element of European fascism's success at acquiring power, especially in Germany , was to practice the "politics of the other."

Adolph Hitler and others in the Nazi Party became experts at exploiting ordinary Germans' anger over their severe economic problems by convincing them it was the "others" – Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, trade unionists – anyone but "real Germans," who were responsible for the country's woes. The strategy, tragically for Germany and ultimately the world, worked like a charm.

Sound familiar with what is happening in America right now?

  • 14 votes
#3.2 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 6:15 AM EDT
sheaster

The Tico Times! I was delighted to see the name pop up on Newsvine- thank you American Idle.

Sounds real familiar, McSpocky.:(

  • 6 votes
#3.3 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 6:35 AM EDT
Wizeguy

If Republicans gain control of this government, we are in for some hell.

They are going to make us pay for throwing them under the bus. How dare us not be grateful for the crumbs they have thrown us. It's not all Republicans that scare me as much as these TEA people. At first the GOP embraced them and said "yea baby go get em". Now not so much as they start to eat the moderates. Good old boys that have been there for a long time playing the game are suddenly being run over.

As the old Irish lady always said "be careful what you wish for".

  • 10 votes
#3.4 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
American Idle

sheaster ... De nada!


  • 2 votes
#3.5 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 8:12 PM EDT
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mossberg

In general, not just democrats but anyone with a functioning brain needs to vote this year and every election. The rest of you please just stay home. There's something on TV you want to watch anyway.

  • 11 votes
Reply#4 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 7:40 AM EDT
getreal-1501724

Yeah Fixed Noise stream 24 hours a day, even on the weekends. You know one can never get enough lunacy rightwing propaganda.

  • 3 votes
#4.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 11:27 AM EDT
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Midwestlady

Everyone that can vote needs to vote.

One of the fundemental problems with the last several elections has been voter turn-out. The percentages are scantily compared to the number of people registered to vote.

Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, etc need to step out, research the candidates and VOTE.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 7:41 AM EDT
TedStricker

A lot of people are very concerned about the ascendency of the rabid right, a la Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh et al. The racism is virulent, the hatred palpable. This goes way beyond any concerns about political parties but rather deep into the very heart and soul of our nation.

Sounds like just more Left Wing ideologue hate speech. Nothing new or here. Oh, you have a misspelled word: ascendancy. a not e.

Happens a lot from people educated in Democrat school districts. Spell check helps.

However, I am thinking about those $15 Dior sunglasses.

  • 3 votes
Reply#7 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 7:50 AM EDT
Naughtia

I'd rather be able to think on my own and have good ideas than spell every word correctly.

and people educated in republican districts never heard of Thomas Jefferson, think slavery never happened the McCarthy witch hunt was a great thing, prescoot bush never helped the nazis and never tried to overthrow america and Reagan freed the hostages with his uber manliness during his inauguration.

Samuel Clemens or mark twain as you might have heard of him, abhorred the spelling in english.

http://grammar.about.com/b/2007/11/05/mark-twain-on-the-rotten-english-alphabet.htm

he thought it should be redone, but of course someone like you from his elite ego cloud would attack even someone as bright as mark twain.

At any rate I find this is standard fair for republicans.

Nothing to say about the article, so they attack the person posting it/or author or commentator for something completely minor like spelling as if that negates their entire comment or post.

it boosts their ego and makes them feel so much bigger than you and lets them ignore the subject at hand.

  • 4 votes
#7.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:32 AM EDT
TedStricker

Nothing to say about the article, so they attack the person posting it/or author or commentator for something completely minor like spelling as if that negates their entire comment or post.

Sounds like just more Left Wing ideologue hate speech

I did comment on your article. At least in part. Your article is typical Left Wing hate. I even posted the section of your article I was commenting on and specified the exact words.

A lot of people are very concerned about the ascendency of the rabid right, a la Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh et al. The racism is virulent, the hatred palpable. This goes way beyond any concerns about political parties but rather deep into the very heart and soul of our nation.

  • 2 votes
#7.2 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 2:58 PM EDT
American Idle

TedStriker...

First, how ghastly of me to have overlooked a typo. I am a terrible person, who in the wee hours of the morning, strains her one good eye in the dark to make a post that may be of interest to people who are concerned as I am about the RABID RIGHT that is getting so much attention nowadays. So sue me.

Do you deny there exists such people on the right? No one, include the author of the letter, (who, by the way, is an op/ed contributor to the Gloucester Times) is asserting that all conservatives are, in fact, RABID. But don't pretend you don't know who we're talking about.

These are the people who bring signs to rallies depicting our half-black president as either Hitler, the Joker, or a witch doctor with a bone through his nose. These are followers of Rush Limbaugh who called him, "Barack, the Magic Negro" or Glenn Beck, who called him a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people." These are the supporters of Sharon Angle and Sarah Palin who scare ignoramuses into believing that the goverment is going to take away their guns and who also advocate "second amendment remedies" by "taking out" or "targeting" certain politicians.

I spent weeks last summer traveling all over my state attending town halls; I saw these people up close and personal, and it was ugly. I interviewed a couple dozen, and I can tell you for a fact that they are mean, racist, and deliberately dumb. They cannot engage in intelligent debate, can't get beyond their Fox/Limbaugh/Beck talking points, and when confronted with counter arguments and facts, they get this deer in the headlights look, minus the cute factor. Some of they even ran away from me when I isolated them to take them on on the facts. I called it "cutting the herd." It would be hilarious if they didn't such dangerous beliefs.

There are hypocrites. They shouted about their "freedoms" and then shouted down anyone who disagreed with, including, believe it or not, a deaf mute speaking through a sign language interpreter. That's not only undemocratic and mean, it's incredibly stupid.

And it's gotten worse since then. You know that. And to deny it is the height of intellectual dishonesty.

I don't hate anyone; that takes more energy that I would rather use in intelligent debate and exchange of ideas. And I know what hate is. I have seen it in the flesh. And it's rotten to the bone.

BTW, half blind as I am, I'll offer this in advance of any other typos you may catch. KISS MY @@@!

  • 3 votes
#7.3 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 4:37 PM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

As moderator of the column aren't you supposed to be enforcing the CoH not breaking it so blatantly?

  • 1 vote
#7.4 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:22 PM EDT
TedStricker

These are followers of Rush Limbaugh who called him, "Barack, the Magic Negro

Rush never called him that. As Rush said:

"The term 'Magic Negro' has been thrown into the political presidential race in the mix for 2008. And the term 'Magic Negro,' as applied to Barack Obama has been done by an L.A. Times columnist, David Ehrenstein." Limbaugh later asserted: "I'm going to keep referring to him as that because I want to make a bet that by the end of this week I will own that term," adding, "If I refer to Obama the rest of the day as the 'Magic Negro,' there will be a number of people in the drive-by media and on left-wing blogs who will credit me for coming up with it and ignore the L.A. Times did it,simply because they can't be critical of the L.A. Times, but they can, obviously, be critical of talk radio." Limbaugh continued to refer to Obama as the "Magic Negro" throughout the broadcast -- 27 times, to be exact -- and at one point sang "Barack, the Magic Negro" to the tune of "Puff, the Magic Dragon." Limbaugh defended his use of the song, stating, "Well, that's what we always do here. We do parodies and satires on the idiocy and phoniness of the left."

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200703200012

Dittos Rush !

As for the rest of your comment you are a Left Wing ideologue who seems angry and full of hate. You have no tolerance for opposing views. I feel sorry for you.

  • 2 votes
#7.5 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 8:56 AM EDT
American Idle

TedStriker, your response is confusing. You say Limbaugh didn't call him that and then cite info that he did so repeatedly? Did I miss something? I'm a little jet lagged.

Anyway, who cares who originated the term? Limbaugh knows exactly what he's doing, which is stoking white racial fears. He does it for money. Lots and lots of money. Create controversy, get more listeners, make your advertisers happy. It's cynical and exploitive and that simple.

"Dr. Laura" said the "N" word repeatedly and got a virtual BLEEPstorm of blowback and is ending her show as a result. Limbaugh gets a free pass.

Finally, (1) you don't know me or what's in my heart, and (2) if I had no tolerance for opposing views I wouldn't be allowing let alone encouraging comments on my posts.

Have an enlightened day!

  • 2 votes
#7.6 - Tue Sep 7, 2010 7:31 PM EDT
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Gianni69

I never read or heard of the "TICO TIMES" or "Michael Cook". Newsvine reports Mr. Cook as being from Mass. & Puerto Rice. When Mr. Cook admits to being from "Puerto Viejo de Limon"is in Costa Rica! So, credibility of this article is not reliable.

The facts are that the current administration brought us;

Back room dealings in the promulgation of ObamaCare.

A deficit of major proportions now 2 X that of what Obama what claims to have inherited.

A "Jobs Bill" that Obama claims can't pass because Repubs vote "No"

The fact is Obama does not need the Repubs because he has Pelossi &

Reed as his "Ramrods" in a majority

Decention is part of what makes this Country great, Costa Rica does not have, nor will it likely have the LIBERTY that we have and continue to pay for. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

  • 1 vote
Reply#8 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 8:00 AM EDT
Naughtia

back room dealings of obamacare/.romneycare(r)
http://american-idle.newsvine.com/_news/2010/09/04/5043671-benignly-named-tea-party-is-a-terrible-threat-to-us-?threadId=1064604&commentId=17184500#c17184500

Unlike Democratic proposals that would give Americans the choice of joining a government-run health care plan, Massachusetts has no public option. Instead, people in the state are required to buy private insurance, and the poor get subsidies.

which we had on tv and remember the entire time the GOP would tell everyone what was in it, and you could read it as it changed But remember TV when obama rattled off all the stupid GOP ideas like tort reform and forcing the 12 states that didnt want tort reform to have it by the big bad gov, and buying accorss state lines and other BS like that and said he would be glad to talk about including those ideas, and asked the GOP which dem ideas they would tollerate, and they said NONE start over.

we were there, but apparently you werent.

A deficit of major proportions now 2 X that of what Obama what claims to have inherited.

um Obama inherited a multi year deficit of 1.3 trillion dollars. anyone who has told you that has doubled is flat out lying. the 2009 deficit was 1.4 trillion. 2010 is estimated at 1.5 trillion. and most of the increase comes from a fall in tax income, cause when people make less money, they pay less taxes.

I dont know where the hell you heard that the deficit doubled, but turn that off, cuase that is total BS and you can look up that info for yourself.

the jobs bill he cant pass cause the GOP want obama to fail and the country to fail as they stated, is a payroll tax cut just like the GOP have been demanding. In case you havent noticed, the GOP broke filibuster records in just a couple months in office, they have filibustered every little thing, every little thing.

The fact is Obama does not need the Repubs because he has Pelossi &

that doesnt even make sense unless you have no clue how laws are made.
it takes 60 votes to bypass the republican filibuster. when the dems took over in 2008 they only had 58, with 2 independents and the rest republicans. now they have 57.. SO NO MATTER WHAT THEY NEED AT LEAST ONE REPUBLICAN VOTE FOR EVERYTHING.

luckily scott brown has turned out to not be a partisan douchebags like the rest of the GOP.

and then you ramble on something incoherent.

seriously turn off what ever you are watching
because you really cant be more wrong.

some links
http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2010/02/01/obama-reminds-americans-he-inherited-the-high-deficit-from-republicans/ (1.3 trillion dollar deficit left for obama)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aA8lChe4zUQU (2009 deficit is 1.4 trillion which is not double 1.3 trillion)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aNaqecavD9ek (2010 deficit projected at 1.5 trillion and that is not double 1.3 trillion either)

http://www.thecapitol.net/FAQ/cong_numbers.html (current make up of congress)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/02/22/brown-helps-democrats-break-gop-filibuster/ (scott brown helps break up republican filibuster)

  • 4 votes
#8.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:04 AM EDT
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Citizen Kane-473667

Tea Party being compared to Nazism? LoL! I guess you are a little behind the times here. We've been called Nazis, racist, bigots, homophobes, et al for years now and it doesn't make it any more true now than it did then. I guess when you have no sail, any port in a storm will do. Go ahead, promote your Democratic Party or even the GoP if you wish, but the truth remains they work for the Corporations best interests and a lot of people are angry enough about it to stand up and speak out against it under one banner; The Tea Party Movement. This opens the doors for every viewpoint including some that are just plain wacko. By any other name, the TPM could be called the Voices of America. Diverse and un-unified but pissed all the same.

Be Afraid; VERY Afraid come November.

One party on the ropes and begging for mercy and soon the other will follow as they too find themselves pushed out of the door and replaced. Hopefully by 2012, just the (D) and the (R) following a name on a ballot will prove as detrimental as their past actions have been to the other 95% of America. It is long past time we voted for what they have proven they represent through their actions, or worse; their inaction's, instead of the lies they spew on the campaign trail.

Adults don't need a letter of the alphabet to tell them who to vote for or against.......

  • 1 vote
Reply#9 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 8:08 AM EDT
Naughtia

sure all the gop work for corporate interests, it is part of their powell memo.
but we only have about a dozen bluedog dems, the rest through the middle class and poor a bone now and then.

protecting things like medicare, even as the GOP shut down the entire government to get it cut(while we are producing surpluses) I guess you tea partiers have a short mem.

gave an increase to min wage for the first time in a decade.

under clinton for the first time since the new deal the middle class share of the pie actually rose.. median wage went up, poverty went down, people without healthcare went down.

Bush reversed all that, and during a boom time.

Adults don't need a letter of the alphabet to tell them who to vote for or against......

LOL but they all have to be told by sarah palin and dick armney and michelle bachman and jim demint on who to fear and to vote GOP. Or to tell them their taxes have gone up when they have not only gone down, but our tax bills are the lowest they have been since 1950, and the percent taxes versus GDP is the lowest it has ever been... but the government is too big and taxes us all too much.. despite the billionaires like the one you follow get such a large tax cut in capital gains that most of them pay less of a tax percentage as someone making 100k a year.

and of course only the real tea party is formed by republicans and is multi billionaire koch approved, as prevent when some former progressives tried to form a tea party group.. the republicans got pissed.

you may have this fantasy with flying unicorns all through the air, where suddenly the libertarian movement got really large, but it is all BS. Those are rabid fascist and bigoted right wingers holding that sign right next to you. You know the guy with the confederate baseball cap, screaming obama is a muslim.

  • 4 votes
#9.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:11 AM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

you may have this fantasy with flying unicorns all through the air, where suddenly the libertarian movement got really large, but it is all BS. Those are rabid fascist and bigoted right wingers holding that sign right next to you. You know the guy with the confederate baseball cap, screaming obama is a muslim.

God I hope delusion isn't hereditary but it sure would explain a lot....

Care to take on the issues or are we just going to stand here pissing on each others shoes?

  • 3 votes
#9.2 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 1:18 PM EDT
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kevin saltzman

And just how many back room DEALS were made by Dick Cheney,probably behind GWB`s back!

All bills that will not pass because of Rethugs blocking everything

No healthcare if Repugs get control

Many more minimum wage jobs to serve the greedy,wealthy Repugs and their ILK!

For anyone who watched the" Restore Honor"Tea Party interviews,this kind of decention is just discusting!!

  • 8 votes
Reply#10 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 8:22 AM EDT
HappyToSeeYa

I disagree on one point: minimum wage will cease to exist so people will to work for whatever pittance is tossed to them and they will be grateful to have it.

  • 6 votes
#10.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:36 AM EDT
Naughtia

in mexico where they dont have our labor laws, and they dont have a minimum wage,
you know the right wing wet dream, that supposedly would help everyone including the poor, well this is what you really get.

walmart uses unpaid teens to bag groceries, teens get the opportunity to beg on company property for tips. zero salary, they work completely for hope of the good will of strangers.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20056614/site/newsweek/from/RS.5/

this is what the right and the tea party are after.

walmart also paid the rest of its workers, half in money and half in walmart bucks.. you know corporate scrip, like we had back in the robberbaron days where your 9 year old daughter had to haul coal for the corp and every cent of your paycheck you owed to the company store

they actually did this. today, in modern times.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0545865120080905

this is what the right and the tea party are after.

this is what happens with no government interference, luckily mexico is pushing back.

  • 4 votes
#10.2 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:19 AM EDT
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kevin saltzman

Adults just need to make LEVEL HEADED decisions come election time,Thereare many GOOD incumbants!

Hate such as Kane`s will not allow for this.

Bottom line....

  • 5 votes
Reply#11 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 8:43 AM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

Hate such as Kane`s will not allow for this.

Considering my "hate" is directed at corporate controlled government, how is this a bad thing?

Bottom line....

I hope you don't mean that you would:

" rather be a stool than the feet resting upon it...."

  • 1 vote
#11.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:30 AM EDT
Naughtia

Considering my "hate" is directed at corporate controlled government, how is this a bad thing?

because you follow a fraud party created by fascists like fox news, dick armney and david koch, all pretty much the antithesis of anti-fascism.

  • 4 votes
#11.2 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:22 AM EDT
Minan59

because you follow a fraud party created by fascists like fox news, dick armney and david koch, all pretty much the antithesis of anti-fascism.

Well said!

  • 2 votes
#11.3 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 11:50 AM EDT
Citizen Kane-473667

And exactly what option do you offer that is better? Democrats? Republicans? Yeah I see how thats gotten me somewhere; closer to the poorhouse economically (R) and jail socially (D).

    #11.4 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 1:22 PM EDT
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    kevin saltzman

    Oh and BTW just what is a democratic school district--can anyone chime in?

    Coudn`t possibly be in Texas!!

    • 5 votes
    Reply#12 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 8:46 AM EDT
    PowerIsKnowledge

    Adolph Hitler and others in the Nazi Party became experts at exploiting ordinary Germans' anger over their severe economic problems by convincing them it was the “others” – Jews, gypsies, homosexuals, trade unionists – anyone but “real Germans,” who were responsible for the country's woes. The strategy, tragically for Germany and ultimately the world, worked like a charm.

    So true. The followers of Beck, Palin (who doesn't know up from down), Fox, and the others like them are too worried about embracing their racism then to see what is really going on.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#13 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
    TedStricker

    The followers of Beck, Palin (who doesn't know up from down), Fox, and the others like them are too worried about embracing their racism then to see what is really going on.

    More Left Wing ideologue hate speech. Racism, racism, racism....please it's now very old. All those Grandmas in Beck's crowd are racist ? It's not selling outside of Newsvine.

    • 3 votes
    #13.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:34 AM EDT
    jtrain36Deleted
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    rock n roller

    The letter is spot on...and the main instigators are Beck and Palin...this is very serious...ignore them...well...to be honest...what does it say about America...there are people in this country that actuallly respond to these two and their ilk....vote without hesitation...and get these usurpers of freedom out of the headlines and out of our business.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#14 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:18 AM EDT
    kevin saltzman

    I wonder,for those of you who watched the interviews of the "Honor for America"(?) rally?

    Was it only me,I didn`t see ANY other ethnic poeple in the backround

    Lots of CLOWNS in silly costumes though!!

    • 3 votes
    Reply#15 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:52 AM EDT
    Citizen Kane-473667

    Yes we all know there are no Black supporters of the Tea Party.

    • 1 vote
    #15.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 1:26 PM EDT
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    kevin saltzman

    We need STUPID to continue educating ourselves!

      Reply#16 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:53 AM EDT
      American Idle

      CITIZEN KANE...

      Yes, some visibly Black people walk among the ‘baggers. And very visible they are… being featured upfront, onstage, and in front of cameras at the March of the Beckerheads. Fact is, the overwhelming majority of 'baggers are "people of pallor," while African Americans comprise a scant one percent.
      See: Tea Party Supporters: Who They Are and What They Believe
      Also noteworthy:
      Sixty-three percent say they get the majority of their political and current events news on television from the Fox News Channel, compared to 23 percent of Americans overall. Forty-seven percent say television is their main source of Tea Party information, the top source; another 24 percent say they get Tea Party information from the internet.
      Which would explain they inane, confused responses of baggers interviewed at the Beck rally:
      VIDEO: New Left Media interviews at Glenn Beck rally (oh, boy)

      • 2 votes
      Reply#17 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 4:11 PM EDT
      Citizen Kane-473667

      So you like math and percentages huh? Okay,let's see how informed and educated you really are.
      1) How many people in America are black?
      2) How many of those blacks are registered to vote?
      3) How many voted in Nov 2008?
      4) How many white voters were there in Nov 2008 who voted?
      5) What is the percentage between the two groups?
      6) Of the recent popularity polls taken, how many blacks are dissatisfied with Obama's performance?
      7) Would those satisfied with his performance join a group that opposes him?
      8) How many would join a group that has been portrayed as racist by their own families?

      I'll save you the trouble of doing all that work; if you see one black person in a crowd of a hundred white faces, you've beaten the odds....

      But please don't let facts or figures mess up your rant here. May your page hits be many as you too profit from aiding in the continuing of racism.

      • 1 vote
      #17.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:32 PM EDT
      krounded

      1) How many people in America are black?
      2) How many of those blacks are registered to vote?
      3) How many voted in Nov 2008?

      Are you looking for a X2 (Chi-Squared) Test there Citizen?

      • 2 votes
      #17.2 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:42 PM EDT
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      krounded

      I think most people involved with the Tea Party are unaware or do not believe that these more extreme elements are present in their midst. I'm not even sure to what degree the Koch brothers or the more racists ideologues actually control the Tea Party. They don't seem that organized.

      Certainly folks have a right to protest. Many of the principles are ideas that many people support. However, these Tea Partiers seems to vote against their own interests. They support actions that are actively propagated by groups that have a lot to gain by stirring up lies and resentment. I've never seen a time where ordinary folks were so happy to support the huge profits of corporations and the rich.

      Perhaps Sharron Angle is right. People are spoiled. What other explanation could there be for people to go out and booster for the ones that are robbing them. Past Labor leaders that fought for a 10 hour and then an 8 hour day would be rolling in their graves.

      Happy Labor Day everyone!

      • 5 votes
      Reply#18 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 8:59 PM EDT
      Citizen Kane-473667

      I voted your comment up simply for admitting that you don't know why. In its infancy any attempt at resistance welcomes all who will enter the fray without regard so much as to whyt they are there. It then builds itself to the point where it can no longer afford to stick with "The Enemy of My Enemy is My Ally" and must look to the views of its allies and lay the ground rules for what will and will not be tolerated as approved actions under their banner. The Tea Party reached that point and did so. Now it must further define its goals if it is to remain alive.

      Yes, we do appear to vote against our own interests but that is because we have taken into account the larger picture. We want to stop the overspending and the only way we can do that is to tie the purse strings shut with debate. We are being given the choice between bad and worse. Makes it real hard to decide so we go with the "X" to block the "O" already on the board.

      • 1 vote
      #18.1 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:44 PM EDT
      krounded

      Makes it real hard to decide so we go with the "X" to block the "O" already on the board.

      It is a strategy. If the Dems lose both houses of Congress, I'll be watching to see if they adopt the politics of "No".

      I think we would do well to remember that most tic-tac-toe games end with no winner though.

      • 6 votes
      #18.2 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:29 PM EDT
      Citizen Kane-473667

      that most tic-tac-toe games end with no winner though.

      How can we possibly forget-unless some happen to be in the top 5% that is....

      • 1 vote
      #18.3 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 7:39 AM EDT
      Truth Hurts-840829

      It is a strategy. If the Dems lose both houses of Congress, I'll be watching to see if they adopt the politics of "No".

      I think we would do well to remember that most tic-tac-toe games end with no winner though.

      well we kinda asked the republicans to be the party of no - so at least they listen to the people - and as result they are going to get our support in NOV

      if the dems adopt a party of no strategy against our wishes as some kind of pay back it will not help them one bit.

      • 2 votes
      #18.4 - Mon Sep 6, 2010 9:24 AM EDT
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      A Sergeant's Mom

      No, actually I would tend to say that anyone who is an outrageously violent threat to this nation so far as weapons of mass destruction or nuclear stuff is concerned, is a terrible threat to the United States. Not sure to what events you are referring to with the Tea Party except rallies and speaking to bring God back into the country. But - k.

      Glad to clarify. And - I'm not a member of the Tea Party.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#19 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 9:27 PM EDT
      A Sergeant's Mom

      Well, but we also know that Jon Stewart's show is just comedy, right. I mean, when I've written that he should either run for office or take seriously what he is trying to do for a living - in being a real reporter, this is the answer I got.

      Whatever...

      • 1 vote
      Reply#20 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 6:29 AM EDT
      TheAntiObama

      Just attracts those people who listen to Clowns.

      • 2 votes
      #20.1 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 6:37 AM EDT
      Minan59

      Just attracts those people who listen to Clowns.

      Like teabaggers?

      • 2 votes
      #20.2 - Sun Sep 5, 2010 7:35 AM EDT
      TheAntiObama

      That is one wide sweep to try to connect TeaBag people to Stewart and Colbert. Kudos for that big stretch. Guess any kind of demonization is fine when trying to build a strawman. I have it on video both comedy talk show hosts admitting they are clowns.

      • 3 votes
      #20.3 - Mon Sep 6, 2010 6:07 AM EDT
      American Idle

      And Glenn Beck admitted to be a rodeo clown

      • 1 vote
      #20.4 - Tue Sep 7, 2010 7:22 PM EDT
      JLeon-1895344

      American Idle: Do you know what a rodeo clown does? I doubt you do.

      During bull riding events, rodeo clowns are the first defense against the bull after a cowboy gets bucked off. It's the rodeo clown's job to distract a 2,000 to 4,000 pound angry bull from going after the cowboy. This is very dangerous and takes a lot of courage. Clowns get seriously injured quite often.

      Before you poke fun at an honorable profession, do a little research. These arent circus clowns. They save bull riders lives every time they step in the arena.

        #20.5 - Tue Sep 7, 2010 7:51 PM EDT
        TheAntiObama

        You're right Idle, he's also a Grade A hijacker sent to try to turn a reformist movement into a Neo-Con puzzle piece to be fitted into the Left/Right paradigm.

        • 4 votes
        #20.6 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 3:49 AM EDT
        American Idle

        JLeon...yes, I know what a rodeo clown is and does. If you have an argument with that term to describe Glenn Beck, tell it to Glenn Beck. I apologize for not hitting you over the head with the implications of his self-evaluation. So, I'll it explain it this way...

        He sees himself as a rodeo clown, a distraction, as you aptly pointed at. So who is the angry bull, dear? We are! By distracting us with his antics and disguise, we don't focus on the object, cause, or root of our anger. Our anger and attention is deflected to another source that has nothing to do with why we are angry in the first place.

        His choice of the term was not only appropriate but an uncharacteristically candid admission of what he does and what he really thinks of his audience.

        • 2 votes
        #20.7 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 4:59 PM EDT
        American Idle

        AntiObama...That's a very interesting observation. Thank you.

        • 1 vote
        #20.8 - Thu Sep 9, 2010 5:02 PM EDT
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        crasheagle

        All you really have to do is look at the recent Supreme Court decision that let's Corporations DECIDE who our representatives are. by buying them. Foreign or domestic. We are in a world of crap if the Democrats don't win this November. Everything the right accuses the left of being the right is doing behind everyones back. How blind can the people of the U.S. be? Better open up those minds people and save your country for real. Kick all the Republicans OUT! Don't mistake emotion & loyalty for patriotism.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#21 - Mon Sep 6, 2010 3:45 PM EDT
        TheAntiObama

        Kick all the Republicans out too, and start two new parties without incumbents from either party.

        • 2 votes
        #21.1 - Mon Sep 6, 2010 4:42 PM EDT
        TheAntiObama

        Arg, hate it when i typo, meant to say, Kick out all the Democrats...

        • 1 vote
        #21.2 - Wed Sep 8, 2010 5:35 AM EDT
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